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When we have the tales of the Blawgosphere! Everybody, and I mean everybody, is just abuzz about the almost-simultaneous self-outing of Article III Groupie in The New Yorker, and the disappearance of her/his blawg, Under Their Robes. (It now is password controlled.)
Law.com's Lisa Stone sums up all the gossip here. Here's Bob Ambrogi's report. And here's the Editor 'n Chef's account on Blawg Review. Ol' EnC was among those (including moi) who speculated that A3G was actually Denise Howell, of Bag and Baggage, but it turns out it wasn't even a babe: it was a 30-something New Jersey lawyer, David Lat, an assistant U.S. attorney. (Not for long, many speculate.)
P.S. Check out Blawg Review #32, here. (JAG Central this time).
Meanwhile, the SoloSez crowd is just beside itself about Ross Kodner's diatribe against blawgers, whom he collectively asserts exude an attitude that is "elitist, class-structured, narrow-minded and exclusionary." Ohhhhhh kay Ross. (Caveat: Ross, a former member of the LTN editorial advisory board, is a very frequent contributor to LTN).
Here's his self-described rant:
[I'm writing about] the "attitude" that many of us in the legal tech world have observed as developing among blawgers over the last couple of years. It's elitist, class-structured, narrow-minded and exclusionary. There, I said it.
Obviously I'm not trying to paint a sterotypically overbroad picture, but it's very noticeable. There's the sense that if you're in the legal tech world and don't have a blog there's something wrong with you. I am sick and tired of being repeatedly asked why I don't have a blog. Not "have you thought of something useful and interesting to justify having a blog?"
I believe in the overall concept of intelligent web use for marketing, client contact, brand building, collaborative and educational, etc. purposes. From a business perspective, taking business time and resources to devote to a web presence should be part of a reasonably thought out integrated marketing strategy and plan. So whether website or blog (which to be 100% clear is just a subset of the website universe of online presence approaches), there should be a plan and time/cost justification. Understand that I have absolutely NO problem with personal blogging without limitations, qualifications, etc. If people want to post random musings, pictures of their pets, and rants about whatever, they are certainly free to do so.
But when it's a business situation, it's very different in my mind. So my answer to those blawgers who keep pestering me is this: When you've got 6 GB of free CLE materials and articles that get downloaded constantly by people from all over the world - then you can hassle me about not blogging. When you've spent several thousand hours helping people by posting to various listservs, then you can throw stones at my glass house.
Why don't I blog? Because I accomplish what I want to accomplish with MicroLaw.com, business-wise. Might I build a blog within a website, add RSS capability to the content being posted to the site? Sure - but I'm too busy doing live presentations, living in airport lounges, writing articles, posting free CLE materials, running pro-bono relief efforts and posting to listserves . . . not to mention the occasional need to make a living and run my business . . . AND have personal relationships and pay the attention to Kodner1.html and Kodner2.html that they deserve to add anything else to my plate. Add in my naturally and admittedly obsessive personality and I could see doing little more than blogging 12 hours a day.
So for me it's partly practical, partly personal survival and partly business-justification-based that I'm not blogging.
But what thoroughly agitates me is that the attitude that bloggers are above the rest of us, as a technically-effete class, is about as exclusionary as you can get. For a concept intended to spread information freely, creating a closed little cliquey society seems like the antithesis to the blogging mentality. And I'm sorry, because one blogs or because one has a regular website does NOT automatically make someone an expert on a subject. Period.
And same for websites. Evaluate the information source CAREFULLY whatever it is that you're reading and plan on relying on from the web. Hardly limited to legal bloggers, there are plenty of people who fashion themselves as subject matter experts where the primary qualification is nothing more than saying they are experts.
The press release for the upcoming Blawgthink seminar embodies my concern and frustration. I don't have it handy and I don't want to try and quote it, but there was a point made that this seminar format is superior to traditional CLE - OK, everyone's entitled to their opinion. But it went on to essentially say that all PowerPoint-style CLE presentations are inherently crap in comparison to their seminar format.
So in one fell swoop, every hard-working CLE presenter was trashed and insulted. I personally found it infuriating and outrageous - others in the legal tech CLE world who saw it have been telling me the same thing. So how can pissing off the logical core of people who are in the best position to influence the legal tech market (and who may also be bloggers!) be positive. It's the essence of substanceless self-indulgent elitism.
And personally, I have given up much, professionally and personally, spend as much as 50% of my time traveling around educating legal audiences over the past 20 years - most of which never results in any kind of even the shadow of a prenumbra of business opportunity - I do it first and foremost because it's my version of pro bono - giving back to the legal community of which I am a part. And sure, it's fun and it feels good and all the acknowledgement is cool and yes, sometimes there is business that directly or indirectly comes from it. But to have what I and so many others who have worked so hard to do so thoroughly condemned merely in the interest of promoting some conference is a virtual declaration of war on many of the most established and pervasively present influencers in the legal tech world.
At best, it was a ham-handed amateurish blunder - a lapse in judgement that resulted in a very poor choice of wording. And yes, this REALLY set me off.
So sorry about the rant ... not directed at many good folks in the blogging world. It's just the few that sometimes seem to speak for all that I think intentionally or unintentionally get this attitude and try and spread it with missionary zeal and secularism. My request to blawgers is use your platform in an inclusionary way - not to polarize the marketplace with even the impression of elitist exclusionsm.
Okay, I feel slightly better now . . . deep breath.
OK Ross. Please tell me you really didn't refer to your kids as Kodner1.html and Kodner2.html. Anyway, interesting post -- and I can't wait to read all the responses among the Blawg/Lex/Think/Thought crowd.
Update/clarifications: (Responding to some of the comments):
1. Hey! "Diatribe" in Mon tawk is NOT derogatory. Diatribe = rant. Nuttin' perjorative intended.
2. There may not be a lot o' conversation within SoloSez, but there is back channel. I stand by that one.
(Thanks for writing!)
Update #2: Wow -- what a great dialogue. Thanks everybody.
One quick note: Ross, I think you missed the point about how ironic it is that this discussion is so active on a blog. It wasn't implying that you posted the rant originally on my blog, it was implying (I believe) that this is a good example of how blogs are a great vibrant venue for these sorts of discussions etc.
And just for the record: Ross did NOT provide this "rant" to me nor did he ask me to post it. I did, however, notify Ross with minutes of posting the item, as a courtesy to him because Ross is a regular contributor to LTN and former edit board member -- and because it is just the right thing to do.
Comments Update #3: Maybe part of the reason that some folks are perceived as "elitist" etc. is how we all present and market ourselves. When does healthy marketing cross over into excessive self-promotion?
I'm from the school that favors Letterman-esque modesty with a touch of self-deprecation. I would be very uncomfortable proclaiming myself as world's greatest legal tech editor -- but let's be real: no one will ever accuse me of not liking a magazine, microphone or blog where I can pontificate. We wouldn't be leaders without strong egos.
But when can alpha dog behavior backfire? I think when there is a perception of excessive self-promotion -- and many of us must at least occasionally plead guilty to that charge.
For example, check out ABA/LPM "Law Practice Today" November 2005 article (and bios) by Dennis Kennedy and Tom Mighell, listing 19 law practice management blogs. Four of the 19 are sites that Dennis or Matt Homann are involved with. As an editor, I would not allow an author to hype his/her own stuff in an article -- because I think it looks way too self-promoting.
IMHO, Dennis would have been better to list 19 that he was not involved with, and use his bio to list his own sites. It's better to have other people say how wonderful you are than to say it yourself.
I'm not attacking Dennis here -- just using this article as an exemplar for all of us to think about how we create and foster perceptions -- this discussion raises such an interesting combination of issues -- leadership, marketing, and the wonderful world of alpha dogs. All good to think about, as we all try to do our best in this legal technology community.
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To be clear, this was not a "diatribe" against all blawgers - that's not what I said. Specifically I pointed out ". . . not directed at many good folks in the blogging world. It's just the few that sometimes seem to speak for all . . ."
And might I ever have a blog? Sure, it's certainly possible if I can make a good enough business case for it. Right now, I can't and am not willing to further compromise my limited time with my loved ones, or give up the regular listserve posts to the online communities I am part of.
Thanks,
Ross Kodner
Posted by: Ross Kodner | Nov 16, 2005 12:09:37 AM
I didn't take Ross's comments as being directed against ALL bloggers, just certain ones. I agree with him about the attitude of some out there bascially being a little too full of themselves. These are in the minority, but as is often the case, the one's that make the most noise get the majority of the attention.
Yes, I was at BlawgThink and feel it was a terrific event. There were some great presntations and discussions that took place and I came out of it wil a lot of new information and insgiht. Will this format work for every type of seminar or training session - not a chance. It defintely has a lot of potential and for the right type of topic will work very well, but it will be a good addition to traditional CLE, but I don't think it will replace or supplant it.
Lastly, I am a daily reader of Solosez and contribute regularly. Your statement "the SoloSez crowd is just beside itself about Ross Kodner's diatribe..." is just not accurate. The implication is that this is has been a major topic of discusion on Solosez when it isn't anywhere close to that. If you search the Solosez Archives, you will find a total of 6 posts (including the original from Ross) on this topic and most of those responses agreed, at least in part, with what he had to say. This doesn't mean he is right or wrong, and his opinion can be interpreted in different ways by different people. However, trying to make this into more than it is - at least as it concerns Solosez - is a disappointment.
Regards,
Nerino Petro
Posted by: Nerino Petro | Nov 16, 2005 12:37:51 PM
Re the BlawgThink press release that Ross said "went on to essentially say that all PowerPoint-style CLE presentations are inherently crap in comparison to their seminar format"--
Something's been lost in translation. I presented at BlawgThink and used PowerPoint, as did others. Ross might want to pull out that press release after all and quote it exactly.
Posted by: Evan | Nov 16, 2005 1:22:36 PM
I think there's something ironic about this rant coming from Ross Kodner, but I can't quite put my finger on it.
Well said though -- lighten up everyone! Just because you can sing into a microphone, doesn't mean you can cut a record.
Posted by: Bill | Nov 16, 2005 2:55:15 PM
The BlawgThink materials *were* a bit heavy handed in slamming PowerPoint.
Most presentations are very heavy on bulleted laundry lists in PowerPoint and do more to put people to sleep than educate and interest them.
However, that doesn't make all PowerPoint bad. Cliff Atkinson has done a fabulous job at Beyond Bullet Points.
While not as structured, Garr Reynolds follows a similar tack at www.presentationzen.com. Steve Jobs also uses a similar approach (although I'm sure he uses Keynote).
On the issue of blogger triumphalism. Yes, it can get out of hand a bit, but blogs are a very good tool. However, there's no need to use that tool. If you prefer to use a website or listserv, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
One of my main reasons for starting a blog was that I was spending about 15 minutes typing out answers to the same question over and over again. Now I post it on my weblog and shoot people the link.
But whatever tool works to help you get where you want to go.
Oh. And the Open Space conference did work pretty well. It was a neat idea that allowed people to get what they wanted out of it.
Posted by: Dave | Nov 16, 2005 5:38:21 PM
I think this 'brouhaha' is best left to simmer, hopefully so that we can focus on what's really important. First, Ross is someone who has earned the right to sound off on tech trends. He knows his stuff and he has his finger on the pulse of legal tech. I also didn't take his comments to apply to all bloggers. I assume it applies to certain bloggers, although I don't know which ones and it doesn't really matter. We all have a tendency to say things every once in a while that are expressed with passion and thereby evoke passionate responses that miss the point of the message. I understand what Ross is saying and, even perhaps, why he said it. We don't need to dwell on it. There are bigger issues out there to wrangle with.
Posted by: Ernie | Nov 16, 2005 8:08:42 PM
Blogging works!!! And if someone does not want to do a blog, that is fine too. I decided to do a blog instead of other marketing efforts. Involved in my decision was the research I did on the effectiveness of blogging as a marketing tool. While I appreciate Ross' comments. Lets not forget things change and move forward. It was not long ago that a static website was a "far outthere" concept. Blogging enables marketing efforts that one can do individually or in a group. For example, individuals or firms in the same practice area, can blog in their respective states and link to and off one another. This in and of itself increases "market share" for those blogging firms and solos. Blogs are becoming a huge source of information that is not static and expands every second of every day. Am I excited by blogging? You bet I am. is blogging for everyone? No it is not. Should anyone rule out blogging completely? No they should not. Is Ross wrong? No, for him blogging may not be a choice he wants to explore now. However, perhaps a blog would enable him to put out the information he does and at the same time replace some of the other items he does.
Posted by: Grant Griffiths | Nov 17, 2005 12:42:25 AM
blawgthink was great. it was innovative, creative and intellectually stimulating. personally, i'm tired of eating the same old chicken just served a different way. hats off to dennis, matt and everyone else behind the event.
Posted by: dave bowerman | Nov 17, 2005 1:07:54 AM
I get it.
A well-written email on legal blogging gets real play--in a blog.
I wanted to attend BlawgThink. Matt and Dennis get people talking and that leads to some actual thought. A rare occurrence in the law these days.
Blogs are just an easy way to publish ideas on the web. And they make it easy for others to find those ideas--you can't Google email. You don't need to know all the tech, you just type your entry and press post. Since you don't need to know tech, you don't need the services of... er, never mind.
Ross, your email would have made a great (and ironic) series of posts on a weblog. C'mon, jump in the pool!
And I didn't see original email as a diatribe or a rant.
More of a jeremiad.
Posted by: John | Nov 17, 2005 7:04:55 AM
And THIS doesn't sound incredibly "elitist, class-structured, narrow-minded and exclusionary"?
"When you've got 6 GB of free CLE materials and articles that get downloaded constantly by people from all over the world - then you can hassle me about not blogging. When you've spent several thousand hours helping people by posting to various listservs, then you can throw stones at my glass house."
Blawgers are doing just fine without everyone jumping aboard just because it's the latest thing to do.
But if Ross had attended BlawgThink (I did), he wouldn't have left without changing his mind and realizing that blogging technology is simply a superior way to do what all of us would like to do with a website (bearing in mind that it can be very effectively combined with static web pages).
Posted by: George Lenard | Nov 17, 2005 1:23:40 PM
They're a blooger, she's a blogger, he's a blogger, you're a blogger, wouldn't I like to be a blogger too, be a blooger, just be a blogger," (sung to the tune of the Dr. Pepper jingle...duh!)... Anyway, I love reading blogs and learn something pretty much on a daily basis. I only wish I could find a subject compelling enough to blog about every day. I need a topic that hasn't already been addressed, something I love to talk about, something I love to actually do and one where I just might happen to know just a wee bit more than the average bear about the subject matter. Hmmmm, let me think... motorcycles, cowboy boots, reality TV shows and marketing to the legal community....think there might be a blog in there somewhere?
Posted by: Gayle OConnor | Nov 17, 2005 2:11:43 PM
Responding to Evan's post about the BlawgThink press release, here's a direct quote from it that I reacted to: “The traditional conference model is broken,” says Matthew Homann, LexThink’s President and Chief Thinking Officer. “Instead of being lectured to while watching bad PowerPoint slides." So as someone who spends almost half his time speaking at, and or organizing "traditional conferences" and while still one of the few Corel Presentations aficionados in the world, am apparently "lecturing" while forcing my audiences to watch "bad PowerPoints." I stand by my reference to it - it may not have been mean-spirited, but it was tactless and insulted many hard-working legal tech and law practice management educators who have been donating their time for DECADES - not just blogging for profit for a couple of years.
Regards,
Ross Kodner
Posted by: Ross Kodner | Nov 17, 2005 4:35:29 PM
I'm not sure why my specific comments are not being understood. I in NO WAY condemned blogging. Not one iota. My points were that if was personally irritated by what I have seen as a technologically superior attitude by bloggers that turns off people, including me (not to blogging, but to being part of their "community within a community"), and blogging for the sake of blogging but cloaked under some vague "it's a business thing" justification. If a blog is personal, cool - go for it - do whatever you please. If you're going to counsel a law firm to blog, why should the advice be any different in its core basis than any other kind of marketing advice? It's business so let's act like it. It's like a law firm with lawyers who never leave the office spending double on new PC purchases, outfitting all their lawyers with laptops based on the justification "well everybody's doing it and they all said we should." That's not smart. Neither is blogging either directly on behalf of one's business or in a way that it is implicitly associated with one's business without a business purpose, without a plan, without the professional image most of us work hard to cultivate and nurture and protect for our practices.
All the best,
Ross Kodner
Posted by: Ross Kodner | Nov 17, 2005 4:42:48 PM
Well, now I guess I know which bloggers Ross was referring to. I still agree with Ross that not everyone should blog. Perhaps I'd be better off not blogging, but I've learned a lot of great things from doing it. One thing I learned (although my knowledge is precarious at best) is that you can't take things that people say personally, even when they are seemingly directed at you.
I also attended BlawgThink and I believe that it was an excellent conference. No doubt it is hyperbole to say the old conference model is 'broken' but it certainly isn't above being criticized for having limitations. Ross, you do a great job in presenting (with or without Powerpoint or whatever presentation software you use) so why assume that you are the problem with the traditional conference model? Why not just acknowledge that there is some merit to Matt's observation (made in the context of marketing and not in some formal dialogue)? And if there isn't any merit to it then why do we need to dwell on it? Good ideas flourish and bad ones die off. I suspect the BlawgThink conference model will not die off, although it may never become the mainstream method of holding a conference. Blogs have gained popularity but the mainstream media is still going strong. Let's all stay away from the sweeping observations if we can. For some reason, even though they are a bad thing, they seem to thrive. I guess that sort of disproves my theory, doesn't it?
Posted by: Ernie | Nov 17, 2005 4:57:16 PM
Ernie, thanks for your thoughts from Thursday afternoon. I want to ONCE AGAIN be clear - I am not anti-blog nor am I anti-BlawgThink. I think that any conference that educates the legal community about anything (literally) is a positive thing.
My focus was my perception (and I guess I'm unofficially representing all the people in the legal tech world who I've had tell me they share the same position - some of the best-known people in our segment) that there is an attitude that if you don't blog, you're a second-class legal technology citizen. That's one element. Then there was the quote in the press release that broadly condemned the concept of "traditional" conferences based on "bad Powerpoints." I just bristle at any organization that promotes itself by denigrating others. Hey, it's my thing - I thought the same thing in the 70's when Pepsi and Burger King based their ad campaigns not on merit-selling but rather, touting themselves via criticism of competitive products. I just don't like the approach, period. And this one hit very close to home. That's it - nothing more than that should in any way be inferred.
And I saw Matt's post saying that "someone" doesn't like Dennis and doesn't like him. Come on. Matt and Dennis are friends - have been for a long time. My frustration is Matt's statement, or whoever drafted it. It was unfortunate in its breadth and tactless. I can dislike the method and the message in one instance without disliking the messenger. So yes Matt, I still like you. And I'm presenting all day with Dennis today in Fort Wayne.
OK, off to do a "traditional conference" all day for the ACBA with "PowerPoints" (gosh I hope they're not "bad" ) with Dennis and fellow technologist Paul Unger.
Referencing one of the comments made here about the irony of my message posted here about a blog, on a blog. I want to be clear. I had no knowledge that my message - which was posted by me ONLY to the ABA Solosez listserve - was posted here until I was informed of it after the fact.
All the best - have a good weekend,
Ross
Posted by: Ross Kodner | Nov 18, 2005 7:07:47 AM
About the ABA/LPM "Law Practice Today" November 2005 article (and bios) by Dennis Kennedy, I agree wholeheartedly. That was the very first thing I noticed -- his "over the top" self-promotion. To me, it was a real turn-off.
Al
Posted by: Al Nye | Nov 18, 2005 5:01:58 PM
Well, I wasn't planning on wading into this discussion, but now that my name is a part of the official record, I guess I have to clarify something.
I'm trying to figure out why my name's included here at all, because it appears that both Monica and Al think the article was authored completely by Dennis. It *is* possible that those 4 blogs were recommended by me -- I happen to believe that they provide great information on law practice management topics, among other things (and I don't think that mentioning Between Lawyers counts as "excessive" self-promotion). So if there's plea to be made, I guess I plead guilty to not making the individual recommendations clearer in the article.
Posted by: Tom Mighell | Nov 18, 2005 6:44:11 PM
Interesting thread. Just a few quick observations:
There is a lot of bad PowerPoint. But lots of good PowerPoint also exists. I use Keynote, which is similar to PowerPoint. My latest presentation features 24 slides, most with multiple elements and builds. Only three slides contain bullets, and no bullet contains more than two words.
In a presentation, I use my voice to provide the information, which enables me to use my slides to support my points and entertain the audience. I tend to favor graphs, charts, and professional photos. Using professional photos in a presentation was once cost prohibitive, but not anymore thanks to iStockPhoto.com and to a lesser degree Flickr.com.
The only downside to my approach -- my slides don't stand on their own. However, with Keynote, you can provide a voice-over and export to a QuickTime movie. These presentations can even play on the new iPod video (requires QuickTime Pro).
Regarding the ABA Law Practice article, why did the authors stop at 19? Oh well, maybe we'll make the cut next year.
Posted by: Neil J. Squillante | Nov 18, 2005 9:29:28 PM
Ross' email looks like the kind you write and then put in the draft folder and if you still feel the same way the next day you send it. Same was the case with letters you let sit in the corner of your desk until the next day.
You rant in the email or letter and then delete it or throw it away the next day. To fire off something like this to tell the world all the great stuff you do is pretty childish.
I may have done the same at some point but as I get older I tend to do it less.
Posted by: Kevin O'Keefe | Nov 18, 2005 10:19:53 PM
Regarding Kevin O'Keefe's comment, which seems full of the unsaid about a long and less then mutually satisfactory prior professional relationship which, if publicly known would bring into question objectivity to make such a posting. This message really strikes me as the embodying the old adage of the "pot calling the kettle black."
And he's right about one thing. There are messages you should write, store as a draft, then re-read and delete instead of sending. Like I did with my original reply to this comment.
Double-standards are the order of the day here - SOME blawgers regularly tell the world about their accomplishments in press releases, blind-copied e-mails, endless self-promotional posts on their blawgs,etc. Messages were the entire point is to tell the world about the "great stuff" they do.
In my message, again, which was lifted unbeknownst to be, from a listserve discussion where most reading it here have no idea of the contextual discussion it was taken from, my points were made not for self-promotional reasons, but to make my point obvious and clear.
I don't need to self-promote by telling people what I do. I just do what I do and let the actions speak for themselves. Unlike some blawgers (and bloggers) who feel compelled to tell people the great things they will do in the future, or constantly push their services at the end of every "informational" post.
Glass houses . . .
And on a separate note, what a great day here in eastern Indiana (Fort Wayne) presenting all day with Dennis Kennedy and Paul Unger educating members of the Allen County Bar in 7 hours of diverse law practice management, legal marketing and legal tech CLE. The ACBA folks have been gracious hosts for the second straight year. And it's always a great pleasure to work with pros like Paul and Dennis.
Have a good weekend everyone. Think about how you can improve what YOU do, rather than wastefully expending your energy insulting others.
:-)
Ross
Posted by: Ross Kodner | Nov 19, 2005 1:21:31 AM
Ross wrote:
About bloggers: It's elitist, class-structured, narrow-minded and exclusionary.
I will observe/say this: There is a headlong rush into what I believe to be the codification of behavior related to blogs. TO the point of preparing booklets, and god forbid down the road legislation of some sort. Expect it.
A buddy of mine (atty 1) mentioned a friend of his - a guy he works and send referrals to. That guy (atty 2) has made money from from Atty 1. So guess what happens? Some tech geek from Atty 2 calls and DEMANDS that Atty 1 attribute or link to Atty 2 in some blog/diary online.
A blog can be a deconstruction, a less formal way to comment on the law. Many seem to want to make it go the other way.
God help you if that happens.
Posted by: Mk | Nov 21, 2005 3:42:55 PM
A friend pointed out this exchange and I wish to make a few comments. I enjoyed the various viewpoints. I did not enjoy one area, which I will discuss.
I have seen numerous technologies come and go. I try to weigh each one and, when they make sense, recommend them to clients and use them myself.
Blogs can be very effective, as has been proven by many. I have great respect for Dennis Kennedy and several others who disseminate valuable information via blogs. On the other hand, blog peddlers, who attack anyone who says anything negative about blogs and who sell them without regard to whether a client will continue them and benefit from them, are harmful to the progress of legal blogs.
Nerino stated it well that the noise-makers are in the minority, but (paraphrased) unfortunately get the most attention.
Condescending attacks on respected, long-time professionals like Ross Kodner such as, "childish" and "I may have done the same at some point but as I get older I tend to do it less", are totally unprofessional and divisive. I once wrote a cautionary article on blogs and was accused by the same individual of stating, "half truths (arguably false statements)."
Ross has been a friend for many years and I have great respect for him. In ten years, I expect to see him still making sound recommendations. I do not expect to see some other “consultants/salesmen”.
I regret that I had a conflict and was unable to attend blawgthink. I agree that new presentation ideas and techniques should be implemented whenever they help convey the message. I recall the flipchart, overheads and slide projector days and love today's evolving technologies.
In summary, regarding blogs (in anticipation of the attacks that will result from this), I am not a blog "nay-sayer". Some of my clients asked for my viewpoint prior to beginning blogs. We asked them some questions, helped them analyze their time and the ROI and they proceeded and they are using them very successfully. Others determined that blogs were not the best vehicle to accomplish their goals. I share Ross’s viewpoint that blogs do not provide the ROI for me at this point that other marketing techniques do, but they do for many others and I wish them great success.
Posted by: Dale Tincher | Nov 25, 2005 11:04:27 AM
I hate to see people I respect and admire take firm stands on opposite sides of a "discussion" that seems to have gone on far too long.
I am a blogger. I wanted to go to BlawgThink, but had an ATLA conflict. But as I said in a post on my own blog, "Besides being a friend, Ross is the king of the legal technology consultants. He's been doing this work better, longer, than anyone else I know. He's helped me many times in the past, and I'm sure he will many more times in the future."
Can't we all just get along...?
Posted by: Bob Kraft | Nov 25, 2005 11:20:16 PM
Some months back, I sent a "rant" to Technolawyer about blogging that covered much of the same ground as Ross's comment. I think that for legal consultants there may, in fact, be valid reasons to blog, provided you can find something meaningful to say on a regular basis. But blogging for the sake of blogging? I'll pass.
To make yet another overbroad generalization, my problem is that many bloggers think that others should blog because blogging, in and of itself, is a good thing. Those who do not blog simply do not "get it" and therefore are doomed to go the way of the dinosaur. Blogging builds your business, spreads world peace, and prevents tooth decay.
I have been urged by my tech savvy friends to "give it a try." I, however, always try to follow the wisdom of Mr. Ed, who would never speak "unless he had something to say." As a lawyer in private practice, I am not interested in blogging unless I can use it as an effective marketing tool. And folks, I can tell ya, unless you can carve out a very specific niche to demonstrate your expertise(the TTABlog comes to mind), there's often more to lose than to gain by blogging. Why? Because writing well takes time. If you don't write well, you scare clients away. Perversely, if you DO write well, and often enough to maintain a blog, potential customers will wonder if you have any time to practice law.
Now, if you're in the business of disseminating news and/or commentary, then a blog can be a great gig, because the blog IS the product. But if your idea is to get people interested in retaining your (non-blog) services, being viewed as a full-time writer is NOT a good thing, because it almost inevitably brings the assumption that you're not a full time lawyer.
Finally, as for the irony of Ross's anti-blogging post being discussed here, it's enough to say he didn't post it to a blog, but the "blogosphere," ever intent on its navel-gazing, decided to drag it in and chew on it anyway. The true irony is that by posting Ross's "rant" here and dissecting it endlessly, the people he takes issue with are proving his point.
Posted by: Kevin Grierson | Nov 28, 2005 3:01:54 PM
Bob Kraft wrote:
"Can't we all just get along...?"
My personal feeling, knowing so many of you, is that if anybody here is taking any of these comments personally or is somehow "offended" by the nature of what I would call "enlightened discussion" then they would not be playing in the pool with the rest of us.
If by getting along one means always agreeing to agree then I am confident that most of the participants here would not participate.
Instead, let's be individuals and continue to grow and learn from each other.
Posted by: Mark Deal | Nov 29, 2005 3:58:50 PM















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